Olde English Bulldogge Puppies FAQs
1. What is the difference between an English Bulldog and an Olde English Bulldogge?
The Olde English Bulldogge is slightly taller than the English Bulldog and much less extreme in terms of bulliness. The Olde English Bulldogge is also a much healthier animal, in that it doesn’t suffer from the numerous health problems of the English Bulldog. The Olde English Bulldogge males are free breeders and the females are free whelpers. This is in contrast to the English Bulldog where in many, if not most cases the females must be artificially inseminated to conceive, and then must deliver by cesarean section. At the Olde English Bulldogge Kennel Club we like to say that our dogs are the type of Bulldogges that the kids can take outside to play in the summertime, while most English Bulldogs must be kept indoors in the air conditioning.
2. I have a specific puppy I am looking for. How can you help me?
We would be happy to evaluate the possible genetic make up of your puppy based on our experience, education, and research.
3. What is the average life expectancy of an Olde English Bulldogge?
While this certainly depends on the care an animal receives such as veterinary care, vaccinations, exercise and nutrition, a good average would be 11 to 15 years.
4. How well do these dogs get along with children?
These dogs adore children, especially if they have been raised with them. Bear in mind that these dogs are bulldogges after all, and can be rough. As with any dog, playtime with small children should always be supervised.
5. How big will my dog get?
Males should be 17″ to 20″ tall at the withers and weigh 60 to 80 pounds. Females should be 15″ to 19″ tall at the withers and weigh 45 to 70 pounds.
6. Do Olde English Bulldogge’s get along well with other dogs?
It depends. As with any of the bully breeds, the Olde English Bulldogge does have a tendency toward same-sex dog aggression. They usually do very well with animals of the opposite sex. There are some things that can be done to try to minimize problems. First, all non-breeding stock should be spayed/neutered. Second, be certain that dogs of the same sex are at least one year apart in age. Third, introduce the Olde English Bulldogge as a puppy, not as an older dog. To summarize, it is not advisable to bring an Olde English Bulldogge into a situation where he/she will reside with a member of the same sex, who is of similar age and has not been spayed/neutered.
7. Do Olde English Bulldogges make good watch dogs?
Olde English Bulldogges are very capable dogs. They perform the duty of watch dog very well. That is, they are tuned in to their families. They are adept at alerting their families when something is not quite right so that appropriate action may be taken.
8. Do these dogs slobber profusely?
No. Unlike the English bulldog, Olde English Bulldogges don’t have a real slobbering problem. They are not as undershot as the English Bulldog and therefore don’t have as much “drainage.” Although, if you’re dressed up to go out for your anniversary dinner, you might not want to stand next to old Duke after a big chug of water.
9. How do I reserve a puppy?
There are several ways to adopt a puppy from Olde South. We welcome visitors to view our puppies and meet the adult dogs with an appointment. A deposit can be put down on any puppy that is available, to hold that puppy until their release day. We will provide no more than three photos/video to the new owner while awaiting the puppy’s release day, by request only. We are not able to take weekly photos or video as we are always assisting many families at one time and often caring for multiple puppies of various ages. We can keep a puppy for up to 10 days after their 8 week birthday at no charge.
If the puppy is over 8 weeks old, the family is able to take the puppy home on the day of the inquiry. We have current health records on all available pups. F We are able to meet a customer part way, and will drive 100 miles free of charge. We can send multiple photos and arrange shipping anywhere in the U.S.
Pick of the litter is offered to as an option on every litter. First pick and second pick deposit is $300. We begin accepting pick-of-the-litter deposits once pregnancy is confirmed by ultra sound at 30 days gestation. We notify the family 24 hours after the puppies have arrived, and send photos of the puppies at 4 days old. The family has 48 hours to select a puppy or forfeit their choice. The family is welcome to come view the pups in their 48-hour window and make their selection in person. If the person with the first pick option fails to select a puppy, the photos are sent to the family with second pick of the litter. Selected pups are held for the buyer until pick up or shipping day at 8 weeks of age. Once pups reach 7 days of age they are put on the market. The pick-of-the-litter deposit allows a family to choose a puppy before they are put on the market. Puppies are not held without a deposit. The balance is due at pick up or 8 weeks of age. All deposits can be applied to the adoption of any puppy up to two years after receipt. Breeder reserves the right to choose pups for the breeding program before any first pick option.
Below is a copy of the contract all buyers are required to sign prior to delivery.
OLDE SOUTH BULLDOGGES
Robyn Comeau (hereby referred to as “seller”) transfers ownership of the puppy described below (hereby referred to as “puppy”) to the party named above (hereby referred to as “buyer”). All deposits and payments are NON REFUNDABLE. The purchase price listed above plus all shipping and handling costs must be paid in full to the seller at least 48 hours prior to scheduled shipping of the puppy. Full payment may be made at time of delivery if the puppy is picked up in person by the buyer. Payment will be made in cash, money order, cashier’s check, or by PayPal.
All puppies are sold on a first come first served basis based upon the time and date of receipt of deposit by the seller. A deposit of $500 is required in order to hold a puppy for a buyer. Puppy must be shipped or picked up in person by the buyer when the puppy is between 8 and 10 weeks of age. If puppy is beyond 8 weeks of age at time of deposit the puppy must be picked up within 2 weeks of date deposit is received by the seller. If puppy is not shipped or picked up by the dates outlined above, the buyer will forfeit the NON REFUNDABLE deposit as damages and the puppy will be put up for sale.
BUYER agrees to the following terms and conditions:
- To receive a health record that lists all vaccines, deworming, and medications administered to the animal. Pet dealers are not required in SC to provide an official USDA CVI. A certificate of veterinary inspection is not provided in this transaction and this transaction is bound by the laws of SC only.
- In the event that the consumer purchases the animal and finds it to have been unfit for purchase at the time of acquisition the consumer must notify the pet dealer within 2 business days of the veterinarian’s determination that the animal was unfit. The consumer has the right exchange the animal at the seller’s discretion but not receive reimbursement for related veterinary services. Prior to issuing an exchange it is the right of the seller to have the animal examined by another veterinarian of her choosing.
- To waive and relinquish his or her right to return the dog for congenital or hereditary disorders. If a licensed veterinarian certifies that at the time of sale or up to 1 year from date of birth the dog was unfit for purchase due to a congenital or hereditary disorder that is a major medical concern. At the seller’s discretion, the seller will afford the consumer the right to return the animal and receive an exchange dog of the consumer’s choice of equivalent value, but not a refund of the veterinary costs related to the certification that the dog is unfit and not a refund of the purchase price. The health guarantee expires 1 year from date of birth. Shipping is the responsibility of the consumer. The buyer acknowledges that an animal may not be determined unfit on account of an injury sustained or illness contracted after the consumer takes possession of the animal. A veterinary finding of intestinal or external parasites of any kind is not grounds for declaring a dog unfit for sale unless the animal is clinically ill because of that condition. Any and all medical expenses are always the responsibility of the consumer while the dog is in the consumer’s possession.
- All puppies are sold with no guarantee made as to size, color, quality, and disposition or fertility. All puppies are sold with full breeding rights. Olde South Bulldogges does not guarantee that the puppy listed above when an adult will be able to produce offspring.
- If Robyn Comeau wishes to contest a demand for refund or exchange made by the buyer under this agreement, Robyn Comeau may require the buyer to produce the animal for examination by a licensed veterinarian designated by her. Transportation is the responsibility of the buyer. Upon such examination, if the buyer and Robyn Comeau are unable to reach an agreement that constitutes one of the options set forth in this agreement within 10 business days following receipt of the animal for such examination, the buyer may initiate an action in a court of competent jurisdiction to recover or obtain a refund or exchange as allowed by this agreement.
- In the event that the puppy is sold by the buyer the warranties contained in this contract are null and void and do not transfer to the next buyer.
- Agrees to be bound by laws of the State of South Carolina and further agrees that the transfer of ownership of the puppy from Robyn Comeau, A.K.A. Olde South Bulldogges, occurred in the State of South Carolina. This sales transaction took place in the state of South Carolina and the puppy was sold prior to leaving the state of South Carolina. The Courts for the State of South Carolina will have exclusive jurisdiction for all matters and any legal actions will be adjudicated in the State of South Carolina, County of Aiken County.
For more information, please fill out the Information form. We will be glad to answer your questions.
Rare Color Inheritance Patterns in Olde English Bulldogges
Color patterns are determined at the genetic level by genotypes and phenotypes. Geno=gene and deals with what the dogs actual genes look like, while pheno (think P is for picture) deals with what the dog physically looks like or the physical picture of the dog. You can also consider genotype is what is on the inside and phenotype is what is on the outside. There are several genetic locations (Loci) that genetically determine a dog’s color genetically. At each location is a pair of genes (Alleles).
For blue, the Loci, or location is called “D” for dilution. The possible alleles (or genes) at the D loci are “D” and “d.” Every dog is either “D-D,” “D-d,” or “d-d.” These are the genotypes. A genotype of “D-D” produces a pheontype of non-dilute, or non-blue. The genotype “D-d” is what is typically called a “blue-carrier.” These dogs have a phenotype exactly the same as “D-D”. They are non-dilutes, and non-blues. “D” is a dominant allele over “d” so only dogs which have a “d-d” genotype will have a blue or dilute phenotype. In other words, only “d-d” dogs are actually blue in color. Blue is a dilution which acts on black pigment as well as black-colored hairs. Any pigment or hairs that would otherwise be black are diluted from black to blue on a “d-d” dog. This is what makes solid blue, blue brindle, blue fawn, blue pied, blue with tan points, blue masked fawn, blue sable fawn, and all other varieties of blue possible. D-d and d-d dogs can produce blue offspring. Any dog of D-D loci, that is bred to a blue d-d, will produce an entire litter of D-d puppies, which are blue-carriers, but not blue. Each puppy inherits one gene from each parent.
The next Loci to talk about is K. At the K loci is where the determination is made for brindle or fawn. Possible alleles are K, Kbr, and k. K is dominant (solid black), kbr is brindle, and k is fawn. We can simplify this loci to a basic dominant-recessive relationship (similar to blue or chocolate) with “kbr” (brindle) being dominant over “k” (fawn or non-brindle). “kbr-kbr” and “kbr-k” would be brindle, while only “k-k” would be fawn (or non-brindle). A homozygous (which just means two of the same gene) brindle “kbr-kbr” would always produce brindle pups. This would be beneficial if one is trying to produce brindle-colored pups, or detrimental if one is trying to produce non-brindles. If the dog has just one K gene for solid black, they will only be black with no other coloration — exception of white like a black lab. K masks all other possible secondary colors in the phenotype but they can be a carrier for the genes on the A locus.
The A loci is the one responsible for the different variations of fawn and contributes to markings on tri dogs. Possible alleles are Ay, Aw, At, and a. Ay is dominant (solid) fawn. aw is for wild (or the wolf-type grey color) and is responsible for the sable in some fawns. at is responsible for tan points (black and tans). Lastly, a is recessive black. For example, a blue tri bulldogge would have to be kk (no dominant black “K” or brindle), at at for fawn points, and have the dd recessive. All the recessive genes must occur in this combination. A blue tri is a very rare color combination and much higher in price because the chances of having a blue tri dog are very slim!
Chocolate works in a similar way to blue, as it is recessive. At the chocolate loci, B (we say B for brown) exists in the two alleles “B” and “b”. Bulldogges can either be “BB” or “Bb” (non-chocolate). B is dominant to b so only those dogs with a “b-b” genotype will express the chocolate color. Chocolate is similar to a dilution as it acts upon black pigment, making it brown. So the genotype of a chocolate dog is K,bb (self-colored like a chocolate lab) or kk ,bb,Ay or kk,atat,bb (chocolate tri).
The Lilac is the most misunderstood. Lilac bulldogs are simply diluted chocolate. A lilac tri must be kk (non-bindle), bb (brown causes black to be a brown or chocolate color), dd (dilution gene to get the light chocolate coloring). A lilac dog would have no black or grey hairs. The nose is chocolate and eyes are blue or hazel. The recessive genes in this combination are very unlikely so we strongly recommend having a DNA test before purchase.
The last loci to discuss is S, patches of white. This is where piebald markings come from. Alleles are S, si, sp, and sw. S is dominant for self-colored (can have white chest or toes – under 10 percent white). The si is for Irish spotting, which usually is white chest, lower legs, undersides, white collar, white blaze and can be 10-30 percent white. The sp allele is for the typical piebald, which is random spots of color, and can be 20-80 percent white and is usually non-symmetrical. The sw allele is for extreme white. Any combination of the recessive genes- white genes creates the degree of white marking.
Let us know if we can help you understand the color genetics of the bulldogge. We appreciate any comments and contributions on this issue.
Rare and traditional bulldogge colors
Brindle is a base coat color ( usually golden or brown) with stripes or markings of a darker color.. If “stripes/marks” are the same color as the pigment or the stripes or marks are so close together that they become the dominant color, the puppy is referred to as a black brindle.
Blacked tipped sable/fawn or simply SABLE
A sable/fawn dominant coat color puppy (golden or lighter tan color at the roots) will have hairs that are “tipped” with black even though the puppy’s markings gives the tri-color effect (three or more colors) a tri colored dog will not have hairs that are tipped with a darker color.
Any shade of blue gray to gray blue from deep slate to light blue gray, always with a gray nose and hazel, blue or golden eye color.
The color fawn comes in a variety of light brown shades. The coloration around the eyes \ and nose are always black. Fawn dogs do not have hairs tipped with another color.
Chocolates range in color from very Dark to Milk Chocolate. These dogs must have a nose and coloration around the eye that is also Chocolate/Liver in color. Chocolate have 2 recessive genes that prevent them from having black in their coat.
A sable/fawn dominant coat color puppy (golden or lighter tan color at the roots) will have hairs that are “tipped” with blue or dark gray. The blue sable has a pair of recessive genes referred to as the dilution gene that causes black coloring to be a gray color. The nose will also be a dark gray color not black. Any hairs that would be black on a sable dog are all gray in color.
Brindle is a base coat color (usually golden, tan or brown) with stripes or markings of a darker color. A blue brindle has 2 recessive genes that dilute any black color to a shade of gray. The stripes are a gray colored not the traditional black color with a lighter base coat. The nose is also a gray color.
Black tri and black trindle
Tri is a nickname for the black, white and tan coat. Tri dogs will have tan points above the eyes (like eyebrows) and on the cheeks. Tan markings running up the legs and on the chest. Sometime these points on the legs will also be brindled which makes the dog a “trindle”. Tri dogs have a solid body color or can also come with White or Piebald patterns.
Blue tri and blue trindle
Tri is a nickname for the black, white, and tan coat. Blue tri dogs have 2 recessive genes that dilutes any black hairs in the coat to a gray color. Tri dogs will have tan points above the eyes (like eyebrows) and circular tan patches on the cheeks. Tan markings running up the legs and on the chest. Sometime these points on the legs will also be brindled which makes the dog a “trindle”. Blue Tri dogs have a solid blue body color or can also come with white or Piebald patterns.
Chocolate tri/dark chocolate
Tri is a nickname for the black, white, and tan coat. Chocolate tri dogs have 2 recessive genes that manipulates any black hairs in the coat to a milk chocolate, dark chocolate or liver color. Tri dogs will have tan points above the eyes (like eyebrows) and circular tan patches on the cheeks. Tan markings running up the legs and on the chest. Sometime these points on the legs will also be brindled which makes the dog a “trindle”. Chocolate Tri dogs have a solid chocolate body color or can also come with white or Piebald patterns.
Tri is a nickname for the black, white, and tan coat. Lilac or Isabell tri dogs have 2 recessive genes that dilute any black hairs in the coat to a chocolate color and 2 different recessive genes that dilute the chocolate color to a blonde or taupe. Lilac tri is a dilute version of chocolate. The dog must have 4 sets of specific recessive genes in a specific combination. This combination of so many recessive genes make lilac tri dogs very very rare. Tri dogs will have tan points above the eyes (like eyebrows) and circular tan patches on the cheeks. Tan markings running up the legs and on the chest. Sometime these points on the legs will also be brindled which makes the dog a “trindle”. Lilac tri dogs have a solid body color or can also come with white or Piebald patterns.